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Put together a Corsican, an American and and English and what is the result?... The Police, come on. At least it's what claims Stewart Copeland, the drummer and the yankee of the band.... It seems  that it's a joke!
 
Put together a Corsican, an American and and English and what is the result?... The Police, come on. At least it's what claims Stewart Copeland, the drummer and the yankee of the band.... It seems  that it's a joke!
  
  I saw Police at the Festival of the Pentecost in Colmar where they had a great success... How to say, after this time. It wasn't like “an hysterical crowd up on seats “ when they left the stage, but as the evening took place I noticed that we talked  a lot about  this "unknown" band. And when Dr. Feelgood, the star of the festival, had ended its performance which seemed to me affected by a professionalism at the end, the star of Police still rose. I have a lot of hope in their future.
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I saw Police at the Festival of the Pentecost in Colmar where they had a great success... How to say, after this time. It wasn't like “an hysterical crowd up on seats “ when they left the stage, but as the evening took place I noticed that we talked  a lot about  this "unknown" band. And when Dr. Feelgood, the star of the festival, had ended its performance which seemed to me affected by a professionalism at the end, the star of Police still rose. I have a lot of hope in their future.
  
 
So, listen to what says Stewart Copeland, that is worth it for two reasons:
 
So, listen to what says Stewart Copeland, that is worth it for two reasons:

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1977-05-29
1977 05 29 colmarlive norbertsparrow.jpg
a photo from this concert - copyright Norbert Sparrow
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Stewart backstage at Colmar - copyright Norbert Sparrow
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a ticket for this concert
Performance summary
Artist performing: Dr. Feelgood
Tour: 1977 The Police performances (pre-Andy Summers)
Venue: Parc des Expositions (amphitheatre)
Location: Colmar, France
Support acts: The Police, Hopper-Dean-Tippett-Gallivan, Nico
Ticket prices: 50 Francs


On 1977-05-29, The Police performed at the amphitheatre of the Parc des Expositions in Colmar, France.

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Trivia

One day after the Strontium 90 gig (without a perfomance by The Police / Henry Padovani) The Police supported Dr. Feelgood at a festival in Colmar, France.

Rock En Stock No. 6 (1977) featured an article about The Police with a few photos and a Stewart Copeland interview by Norbert Sparrow. Here's that feature used with kind permission of Norbert Sparrow (with a few spelling corrections).


POLICE


Mettez ensemble un corse, un américain et un anglais et qu'est-ce que ça donne?... La Police, voyons. Du moins c'est ce que prétend Stewart Copeland, le batteur et yankee du groupe.... Paraît que c'est une blague!

J'ai vu Police au Festival de la Pentecôte à Colmar où ils firent un triomphe... Comment dire, à retardement. Ce n'était pas du genre une-foule-hystérique-debout-sur-les-chaises quand ils quittèrent la scène, mais à mesure que la soirée se déroulait je m'apercevais que l'on parlait beaucoup de ce groupe "inconnu". Et lorsque Dr. Feelgood, la vedette du festival, eut terminé sa prestation qui m'a semblé atteinte d'un professionnalisme au stade final, l'étoile de Police montait encore. J'ai beaucoup d'espoir en leur avenir.

Alors, écoutez ce que dit Stewart Copeland, ça vaut le coup pour deux raisons: 1) il a été de l'autre côté de la barrière, ayant joué du rock-progressif au sein de Curved Air, ce qui rend l'équation: punk-rock=alibi pour incompétent musical plus débile que jamais; 2) il a vraiment quelque chose à dire et il le dit bien! Ce n'est pas si commun que ça dans le rock.


NORBERT SPARROW - Police est né de quelle manière?

STEWART COPELAND - "Je tenais la batterie pour Curved Air; Sting (basse) jouait avec Last Exit, un groupe de jazz qui s'était fait un nom à Newcastle; et Henry (guitare) se tripotait à Aix. Sting en avait marre de jouer des accords compliqués pour un public constipé et moi j'étais dans une position semblable avec Curved Air qui joue du rock néoclassique très sérieux... C'en était trop justement. Il s'est passé deux choses qui m'ont poussé à renoncer à mes vieilles valeurs: une, j'ai réécouté mes vieux disques d'Hendrix et je me suis dit "Funckman, qu'est-ce qu'il reste de tout ça!". Et deuxièmement, j'ai organisé une boum chez moi et les Sex Pistols sont venus ainsi que d'autres groupes. Des bagarres ont éclaté sur le choix du disque à passer! Ca faisait des années que je n'avais pas vu quelque chose comme ça... Jusque-là c'était peace, love et brown rice. Du coup, je n'écoute plus Little Feat!".


N.S. - Alors ce qui vous a attiré au punk-rock c'était l'agitation (excitement) qu'il provoquait?

S.C. - "Ouais, son urgence. Jouer pour le public de Curved Air est marrant d'une façon parce qu'il y a une grande scène, les gens écoutent très attentivement... C'est un exercice intellectuel et c'est valable dans ce sens-là. Mais à un gig de Police, comme quand on a joué au Roxy, il n'y a rien de comparable à cette vibration! Les kids commencent à sauter partout... C'est un véritable freak-out; de la folie!".


N.S. - Il y a également une identification stylistique de la part du public qui ne s'est pas vu d'une manière aussi vaste depuis 1967.

S.C. - "Juste. Ce n'est pas seulement de la musique, ça entraîne l'appartenance à un groupe social qui s'habille d'une certaine façon, qui rejette les vieux héros et qui en élit des nouveaux qui représentent cette génération et non pas la précédente. Quand j'ai commencé à aller voir les Stones, les Who, ils jouaient déjà dans les grands stades pour des milliers de personnes... Je n'étais pas là au début, je n'avais pas acheté leurs premiers disques. Jethro Tull m'ennuie à mort maintenant: il fait de la musique à écouter quand vous "purgez une hypothèque!". Les gens qui écoutent Tull maintenant sont vieux, ils ont un loyer à payer, leur premier bébé arrive...".


N.S. - Ne crois-tu pas qu'Ian Anderson est conscient de cela: "too old to rock and roll, too young to die" précise sa situation assez clairement.

S.C. - "Bien sûr, il a choisi son public et il joue pour eux; ses goûts, comme ceux de ses fans, sont devenus plus sophistiqués. Cela se passerait de la même façon pour la nouvelle vague mais on s'en fout de l'avenir, nous sommes concernés par le présent. Ecoute, quand tu vas voir les Damned, shit, ils vont tout droit aux kids, ils ne sont pas inféodés au passé et ils vont grandir avec leur public... nous vivons l'histoire en train de se faire. Ca ne s'est pas passé depuis les jours où on allait voir les Who au Marquee Club".


N.S. - Ca revient à "j'espère mourir avant d'être vieux"; nous contre vous.

S.C. - "C'est comme quand un gosse part de chez lui: il doit se faire les dents sur son père simplement pour savoir qu'il est capable de le faire. Il doit assumer sa propre identité. Plus tard il réalise qu'il n'avait qu'à franchir la porte et que le reste était inutile".


N.S. - Que dites-vous aux gens qui vous accusent (par vous j'entends le punk-rock dans sa globalité) d'être des crypto-fascistes?

S.C. - "Shit! Nous ne sommes pas fascistes. A Londres, j'ai vu que le National Front (un groupe d'extrême-droite) cherchait à s'allier aux Sex Pistols et les Pistols ont immédiatement dit qu'ils n'avaient rien à faire avec cela. Punk-rock est apolitique. Je me fous complètement de la politique... Je ne suis pas un socialiste et le capitalisme n'est qu'un moyen pour certains de s'enrichir plus vite. Tout système, qu'importe son éthique, peut être abusé... So fuck it!".


N.S. - Tu es anarchiste?

S.C. - "NON! Je suis un "surviviste"!".


N.S. - Côté disque, qu'est-ce que vous faites?

S.C. - "On vient de sortir notre premier 45 T. Fall Out, sur notre propre label, Illegal Records, distibué par Faulty Products (Produits Défectueux). C'est le pied... Tu comprends, avec Curved Air nous entrions dans un immense studio avec un budget énorme, le producteur-qui-vient-de-L.A., et dans une situation comme ça tu ne peux prendre des risques. Il y a tellement de fric impliqué qu'il faut plaire au maximum de gens et ce qui en sort alors c'est du muzak. Avec un groupe comme celui-là, le public attend une grosse sono, un disque où la musique est subtilement entrecroisée. Les kids qui écoutent Police ne demandent que le feeling. Le son sur le simple est fantastique pour le genre de musique que nous jouons... Aucune des techniques d'enregistrement que nous avions dans Curved Air et qui enlèvent toute la spontanéité".


N.S. - Vous avez également joué avec Cherry Vanilla.

S.C. - "Oui, pendant deux mois. Cherry est arrivée à Londres, de New York, et elle cherchait un batteur et guitariste pour compléter son groupe. Comme nous étions sur le point de partir en tournée, on l'a fait ensemble. Police faisait un set d'une demi-heure et puis Cherry faisait le sien. Parfois, comme quand on a joué au Nashville, Sting et moi, nous jouions quatre sets par soir.


N.S. - Fatigant?...

S.C. - "Pas vraiment. Ca réchauffe plutôt que d'épuiser les forces".


N.S. - Que pensez-vous des groupes de la nouvelle vague?

S.C. - "Johnny Thunder and the Heartbreakers sont numéro un, sans aucun doute. (Sting, assis dans un coin, énonce un "bullshit"). Sting n'aime aucun groupe punk."


N.S. - Qu'est-ce que tu aimes alors, Sting?

STING - "Moi? Rien du tout... Je suis un vrai membre de la blank generation. J'aime le rock-nihiliste, c'est ce que nous jouons".


Propos recueillis par Norbert Sparrow



this is a rough translation into English done by a fan from France:


POLICE

Put together a Corsican, an American and and English and what is the result?... The Police, come on. At least it's what claims Stewart Copeland, the drummer and the yankee of the band.... It seems that it's a joke!

I saw Police at the Festival of the Pentecost in Colmar where they had a great success... How to say, after this time. It wasn't like “an hysterical crowd up on seats “ when they left the stage, but as the evening took place I noticed that we talked a lot about this "unknown" band. And when Dr. Feelgood, the star of the festival, had ended its performance which seemed to me affected by a professionalism at the end, the star of Police still rose. I have a lot of hope in their future.

So, listen to what says Stewart Copeland, that is worth it for two reasons:

1) He was on the other side, having played the rock-progressive within Curved Air, what returns the equation: punk - rock=alibi for incompetent musical weaker than never;

2) He has something to say really and he indeed says it! It is not so common as that in Rock.

NORBERT SPARROW - " How Police was born? "

STEWART COPELAND - " I played drums in Curved Air; Sting (bass) played with Last Exit, a jazz band which had been made a name in Newcastle; and Henry (guitar) played with himself in Aix. Sting was fed up to play complicated chords for a constipated audience and I was in a similar position with Curved Air which plays a very serious neo-classic rock... It was too much precisely. There were two things which urged me to give up my old values: one, I listened again to my old records by Hendrix and I said myself " Funckman, what we have after all this! ". And secondly, I organized a party at home and Sex Pistols came as well as other bands. Fighting broke out about the choice of the record to be played! It had been years since I had seen something like that... Up to then it was peace, love and brown rice. As a result, I do not listen to any more Little Feat! ".

N.S. - " So what attracted to you to the punk-rock it was the excitement which it induced? " S.C. - " Yeah, its urgency. Playing for the public of Curved Air is funny in a way because there is a big stage, people listen to very attentively... It is an intellectual exercise and it is really good in this sense. But in a gig of Police, as when we played the Roxy, there is nothing comparable in this vibration! Kids begin to jump everywhere... It's a freak-out real; madness! ".


N.S. - " There is also a stylistic identification from the public which we didn’t see so huge since 1967. "

S.C. - " Right. It is not only music, that pulls the membership in a social group which gets dressed in a way, which throws back the old hero and which elects it new ones which represent "this" generation and not the previous one. When I began to go to see The Stones, The Who, they already played in the big stadiums for thousands of people... I was not there at the beginning, I had not bought their first records. I’m bored to death with Jethro Tull now: they do music to be listened to when you " take out a mortgage! ". People who listen to Tull are old, they have a rent to be paid, their first baby arrives ".

N.S. - " You don’t think that Ian Anderson is aware of it: " too old to rock and roll, too young to die " clarify his state rather clearly. "

S.C. - " Of course, he chose his public and he plays for them; his tastes, as those of his fans, became more sophisticated. It would be supposed to be in the same way for the new wave but we don't care without the future, we are concerned by the present. Listen, when you go to see Damned, shit, they quite go up to kids, they are not enfeoffed in the past and they are going to grow with their public… we live the history being made. That did not take place for the days when we went to see Who at Marquee Club ".

N.S. - " That returns in " I hope to die before being old "; we against you.

" S.C. - " It is as when a kid leaves from his home: he has to be made teeth on his father simply to know that it is able of making it. He has to assume his own identity. Later he realizes that he had only to cross the door and that the rest was useless ".


N.S. - " What do you say to people who accuse you (by you I understand the punk-rock in its entirety) to be crypto-fascists? "

S.C. - " Shit! We are not fascist. In London, I saw that National Front (a group of extreme-right) tried to become allied to Sex Pistols and Pistols said at once that they had to make nothing with it. Punk-rock is apolitical. I don't care completely of the politics... I am not a socialist and the capitalism is only a means for some to grow rich faster. Any system, which imports its ethics, can be deceived... So fuck it! ".


N.S. - " You are anarchistic? "

S.C. - " NO! I am a " survivist ".


N.S. - " About music, what do you do? "

S.C. - " We have just issued our first single. " Fall Out", on our own label, Illegal Records, distributed by Faulty Products (Produits défectueux). It is great... You know, with Curved Air we entered a big studio with an enormous budget, the Producer – “Who - Comes - From - L.A.”, and in a situation like that you cannot run risks. There is so much money that you have to please at most of people and what goes out of it then it is “muzak”. With a band as that one, the public waits for a big sound system, for a record where the music is subtly crossed. Kids which listen to Police ask only for the feeling. The sound on the single is fantastic for the kind of music which we play... None of the techniques of recording that we had in Curved Air and which remove all the spontaneity ".

N.S. - " You also played with Cherry Vanilla.

" S.C. - " Yes, during two months. Cherry arrived to London, from New York, and she looked for a drummer and for a guitarist to complete her band. As we were about to leave for tour, we did it together. Police did a set of half an hour and then Cherry did his one. Sometimes, as when we played at Nashville, Sting and I, we played four sets on evening.


N.S. - " Exhausting ?...

" S.C. - " Not really. That warms rather that to exhaust the strengths ".


N.S. - " What do you think of New Wave bands?

" S.C. - " Johnny Thunder and the Heartbreakers is number one, without a doubt. (Sting, sat in a corner, says a " bullshit "). Sting love no punk band. "

N.S. - " What do you like then, Sting? "

STING - " Me ? Absolutely nothing... I am a real member of the blank generation. I love the rock-nihilist, it is what we play ".

Comment taken in by Norbert Sparrow

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References

sources: ticket; BEST July 1980; Henry Padovani; Broken Music; Rock En Stock No. 6, 1977; photos; photographer's information (Norbert Sparrow); Dr.Feelgood website